I know I have talked about this before, but last week Birchie did a round up of her bank bonus and credit card hacking side gigs, and it sparked a fire in me. If you know me, you will know that I already had all of this info handy; I just had to put it in a cohesive post. So let's get started. If this stuff makes your eyes glaze over, skip to the end, where I give you two suggestions for beginners and/or the non-financial people of the group!
I started my credit card hacking journey in 2005. I signed up for the Chase United Visa and the Chase Marriott Visa and I got roughly 60,000 points for each of them as bonuses. Both cards had roughly a $100 fee. After that, I used only those two cards for the years I was traveling for work and through this, I sent my parents to Scotland on first class, sent myself to the Philippines, and supplemented my hotels for my 2008 South America and my 2010 Round The World trips. Bottom line is that from 2005 to 2023, these cards probably got me thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars worth of "free" flights and hotels. Of course, the best part about this, is that much of the money I put on those cards was for work expenses, so, thank you unnamed company that I used to work for! I think they have since gone to corporate cards, but at the time I was there, you could put everything on your own credit card. This also got me Premier status on United for years (no longer though!) and lifetime Titanium Elite with Marriott.
I also just finally used up the rest of my United points on our flights to Germany, so now I have basically none left. Because of this, and the $95 fee, I downgraded my United card to a zero fee card, mostly so I could keep the twenty year relationship stat, as that does help when you are applying to new credit cards (they look for your longest relationship).
I am not telling you all this to brag; my point is that sometimes credit card hacking is an excellent way to get "free" money. The best way is to get the sign up bonus and use that for free travel. Like Birchie said, if you don't travel, this may not be that exciting, and you should also make sure that you can pay off the credit card(s) every month or it is not worth the interest you have to pay on it.
But let's get to the fun stuff. Over the last 14 months, I have received some bonuses, not just from credit card hacking, but also from moving money into a brokerage account. This worked out great for me, as I had to move my accounts after I quit my job, so at that point I searched to find out which firms had the best bonus, and I moved my funds to them. I actually ended up going with more than one, as that was the best bang for my buck. Is this a little hard to keep track of? Not for me, especially with the apps that we have now, where you can just pop in and look at them whenever you want. Also, before this year, I opened two different high yield savings account for the same reason, but I will not get into that in this post.
What odd "side hustles" did I have last year?
#1. Selling crap stuff on the internet! Like I mentioned in this post, I sold a lot of stuff on the internet in 2024 and did make some money but I am not sure that the time involved is really worth it! I would estimate that I got about $3,500 but the hours involved were plentiful and this is of course on things that I probably spent five times that much on. That is a complete ballpark, and maybe if you depreciated everything it would not be that much, but my point is that obviously something is better than nothing, but I did not "make money" from this gig! Net income = negative! I also sold my car, which I paid about $10,000 for in 2016, for $4,000 after using it for 8 years. So, it cost me about $750 per year to "rent" it (or $2.08 per day, not under the $1 per use rule!).
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#2. Brokerage Bonuses. I will not get into actual dollars here, but currently Merrill Lynch, Charles Schwab, JP Morgan and E-Trade all have bonuses if you transfer a certain amount of money to them and keep it there for a certain amount of time. You can usually find updated information on this at the Bankrate website. Like Birchie said, you can also find bonuses for checking accounts, but I did not go down that road.
#3. Credit Card Hacking. Although the cost of the cards I opened is around $700/year, the bonuses that I got ended up netting me about 500,000 points, which if you value them at $0.01 per point just to make it easy (it can range from $0.005 to $0.025, but generally if you get "cash back" for them, it is at around $0.01), would be about $5,000 worth of points. Now, obviously if I let them sit and do nothing, at some point in the future, my cost per year will catch up to my bonus amount. However, I do not plan on doing that!
In the last year, aside from the United flight, I have also booked three hotels using points and the value for the rooms was around $1,000 in total. I also booked my flight from Canada back home using a credit and so that flight also saved me about $250. So basically, I have already utilized enough points to make the $700/year fees worth it for this year.
However, let's get to the dark side. As Birchie mentioned, the talking heads on YouTube often talk about "all the perks" and how "you basically are getting this card for free," etc. Also the credit cards themselves will say the same thing. However, you really do need to look at the fine print and see if they do actually make sense for you, based on where the best point value is, and whether or not you will use the credits etc.
Dark Side #1. The portal. Sometimes the card will give you more points if you use the portal to book something, or they say that you get it cheaper, or you may be able to use your points to book in the portal, but this is not always a better deal. Sometimes the deal is much better on Booking or on the hotel website for example. Also, you can use points to pay off your credit card at $0.01 per point, which is not maxing out the value. You could possibly transfer points to a hotel or air partner and get a value of $0.015 - $0.025 cents of value per point instead.
Dark Side #2. The "credits." Many times the card will give you credits for dining or travel but there are usually caveats. For example, the AMEX Gold says that they will give you $100 in Resy, $120 in UberEats, $120 in GrubHub and $87 in Dunkin Donuts credits each year. If you add that up, you would get $427 in credits for a card that cost $325. Nothing wrong with that, right? Well, they issue the credits only if you use the service and usually only on a monthly basis. For example, UberEats is a $10 monthly credit, only credited if you spend more than $10 in that particular month at UberEats. The Resy credits are only once per half year. So you can't just go and spend $120 at UberEats in one go and get credited. For me, the credits are worth maybe $100 if that, as I don't really use these platforms.
Dark Side #3. Other perks. Many of these cards come with additional perks. It may be TSA Pre, travel insurance, car insurance, extended warranties on purchases or even free returns on some products. They also may have lounge access or food credits in airports. Some of these items are worth it to me and some are questionable. For example, lounge access. I have a card with this and last year I barely flew, so did not really get to use it. However I did fly, once from Canada to Portland and back, once from Halifax to Vancouver, and once from San Francisco to Frankfurt. In all of these cases, the terminal I was in did not have a lounge. So basically for now, I am 0 for 3 as far as getting any value out of my "free lounge access." However, I did rent a car for two days, and the insurance would have cost me about $60, but it was covered by my card. So that one is worth it to me. <---- by the way, remind me to tell you about the time I got scammed by the rental car company and my AMEX saved me!
The verdict? I guess I will give the classic answer on this, and the verdict is that doing any of these things depends on your situation, so some of them may be worth it and some, not so much. If you have all the time in the world, putting something on FBMP and letting it sit until someone wants it may makes sense. If you are trying to offload a lot of stuff in a short time, it may be better to put it on the curb. Brokerage bonuses do require possible account or cash transfers, and more paperwork at the end of the year. Credit cards can offer good perks if you use them right! I guess the bottom line is that I will probably quit my selling stuff online side job and stick to the credit card hacking.
I also plan to do a review of my cards at the end of this year and see which ones were actually worth it and which were not, and will then cancel one or two of them depending on what I find out.
Where can you find out more? You can see what cards I currently have on my Tips and Hacks page. Other resources: The Points Guy, NerdWallet, or Bankrate. Happy hacking!
If you want two suggestions here they are: If you rent your house, you can pay with the Bilt credit card, which has no fee, no bonus, but gives you 1 point per dollar spent on rent and 2-4x points on other things. To put this in context, if you pay $2,000 a month, you will get at least 24,000 points, which can be transferred to American for basically a round trip flight, or to Hyatt for about 2 nights in a hotel. I don't have this card, but here is an article on Nerdwallet about it.
The second one is the Chase Sapphire Preferred, which does cost $95, but if you spend $4,000 in the first three months, it has a bonus of 60,000 as of this writing, which is valued at about $750 (put in context, a US RT flight can be found for about 25,000 points, so you would get about two of these), and it also gives 3x points on dining and 2x points on travel. You get free DoorDash too, which is worth nothing to me, but may be worth something to you! I don't have this card, but I have other cards that use the Chase Travel Portal and am happy with them so far.
What is your favorite life hack? Do you have any side hustles? Do you know if any of your credit card have any perks?
Rob and I both have WestJet cards, and he also has a USD one that gives Avion points, so we have received a lot of travel benefits through those. My sons have their first credit cards and my older one was just able to get a new set of Air Pods with his points, so he was pretty excited.
ReplyDeleteYour son is a natural! He will soon be hacking travel cards and going to far flung destinations. Haha. But seriously, those Air Pods are expensive, so that is a great deal! I know that Canada is more limited re points cards, and Europe even more so, so I consider myself lucky to be able to take advantage. God bless capitalism.
DeleteYou know I couldn't click on this post fast enough when I saw in come up in Feedly! If anyone is wondering what we talked about on our Buffalo trip, this is it.
ReplyDeleteI've never sold anything for exactly the reason that you say: I think it would be a lot of time and hassle, and in the end it wouldn't be "fun" for me. It would be like having a job that I don't like on top of the job that I already have that I don't like.
I think the key with all of this stuff is that if it's something that sounds interesting, give it a try. If it's something that makes your eyes glaze over, feel free to skip it and move on to something that's more of your jam. And then write a big fat juicy blog post about it!
As you know, there is no glazing of eyes here from me. Although I will be honest, sometimes when people talk about shopping, as in for clothing and baubles and shoes and whatever else people like to buy, I may glaze over a little. I think selling stuff can be fine if you are not in a hurry and you work from home and you don't really have any skin in the game, aka, are okay with getting less that you wanted.
DeleteI have a no-fee cash-back card, and John has two ($180/year-ish fee) Aeroplan cards. We use those points in combo with his priority rewards because of status for outrageously inexpensive tickets. That's it!
ReplyDeleteI consign clothes and shop for just about everything second-hand if possible. I try to enjoy life while spending money on things that will bring joy, not waste. That's about it in a nutshell!
I am fully with you there! I realized though that I brought a shirt with me that is too high necked to go nicely under my sweater, so I may need one more nicer looking shirt. But did you know that French people don't really "thrift?" They have vintage stores, but they are not cheap! I don't know what they do with their used clothing!
DeleteWe have a citicard that earns us American Airlines miles. We use those miles for flights when we can, but dang - trying to use them to fly overseas is silly. The fees end up costing more than the flight would if we bought the flight (as we did) on Orbitz. I feel like we could do some of these things, and could get lots of benefits, but maybe this is NOT the right time, as we don't travel a lot right now. Someday, that would be glorious. We've had our citicard for decades and always pay the balance every month, but I do wonder if there are other cards that might earn us better perks. Hmm. Maybe we should add a card or two, but not sure we have the time to look into this right now. I do enjoy these posts. It's great to learn some of the other options out there. We would never bother with uber eats or grubhub, so those sort of benefits would not be important to us, but score me a free hotel room or a flight? My curiosity is peaked.
ReplyDeleteIt depends on what city you are flying to or through. London has really high airport fees, and you can easily pay $400 for the flight and $400 for the taxes if you fly into that airport. There are others that you could fly into instead, for example, Paris, which is cheaper and is close enough that you could take a train and it would still be cheaper to fly there.
DeleteI don't have any life hacks. I'm barely coherent enough most days to just live my life. No, wait. I have one. Buy good shoes. That's my life hack. It will save you so much money in health bills later on. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
ReplyDeleteI agree with that! I am a fan of spending money on certain quality items, and shoes is one of them! A good pair of leather shoes is priceless, plus you can actually resole them and they will last you for years!
DeletePhil has historically searched around for HY savings accounts/money market accounts but I think he does this less lately. I have never done this as it's just too much of a hassle for me, but he will tell me to transfer money to Ally for a transfer bonus. I let him run the show. I mostly use my Amex delta card. It has a $400 fee but now that I am platinum one of my perks to choose from is a $400 statement credit so that is what I chose. We get a free companion fare so the $400 is fine to pay esp when offset by a credit. I also have a chase Amazon card and another chase card, both of which are cash back cards which is the set up Phil prefers. We rarely travel these days besides my work travel (which is all booked on a corp card) so we aren't really using a lot of travel perks. I did use miles to buy our flights to Mexico. Airline miles have REALLY depreciated in value though. Even with how much I travel, I did not have enough miles to buy mine and Paul's flights to DC last October - flights were super expensive since it was fall break across MN for a teacher's conference.
ReplyDeleteI think if you don't travel much, plus you are already getting Delta miles, cash back makes the most sense. Plus a lot of cash back cards pay more points or a higher cash back % for certain categories like groceries or gas, which are more valuable if you are not traveling. It really depends on your situation! I agree that the points have devalued. I had to use so many to get the Germany flights; I think they cost about twice as many points as my international flights had in the past (I think my parent's first class flights were ~ 80k each to Scotland, and K's flights in coach were 110k each! Total rip off).
DeleteI think if you don't travel much, plus you are already getting Delta miles, cash back makes the most sense. Plus a lot of cash back cards pay more points or a higher cash back % for certain categories like groceries or gas, which are more valuable if you are not traveling. It really depends on your situation! I agree that the points have devalued. I had to use so many to get the Germany flights; I think they cost about twice as many points as my international flights had in the past (I think my parent's first class flights were ~ 80k each to Scotland, and K's flights in coach were 110k each! Total rip off).
DeleteIt sounds like you really get the most out of your credit cards and do your homework. We don't do a lot of travelling, so a cash back card is the best thing for us. We use ours for just about everything and pay off the balance every month. It really does add up to a nice sum of free money.
ReplyDeleteAnd I agree with you about selling stuff: most of the time it just isn't worth the personal effort and time. I feel much better about donating it and getting the writeoff.
We've always paid off our credit card every month too. We got QANTAS points on our card and my husband has platinum staus. We usually use them for free domestic flights, it's almost impossible to get points flights on overseas trips now, plus when we have had points flights to Europe the taxes have cost us a couple of grand anyway.
ReplyDeleteI have chase reserve and love it because I travel quite a lot and love the free lounges. You've shared many great ideas in this post, will check out the links. @coco
ReplyDeleteI have not gotten the benefit of the lounges yet, so I will have to do a review once I do!
DeleteHere I am reminding you to write about the time the rental car company scammed you! Yikes! That sounds scary. I get cash back with my credit card, and I just use it to help pay off my bill each month. I'm pretty boring!
ReplyDeleteAt least you are getting cash back! That is better than nothing, for sure!
DeleteI have a Capital One Venture card that gives me 2x on every purchase, as long as I redeem those points on travel. I used to have an Alaska Airlines visa, but cancelled that one several years ago, as it had an annual fee and I didn't feel like I was really getting enough out of it. My Cap One card gave me a 1 year subscription to the Cultivist, which is a very expensive art membership thing. It was perfect timing, because I got free tickets to 3 museums, one in Mougins (south of France), the Musee d'Orsay, and the Louvre. I cancelled that subscription once the year ended. It also got me Global Entry in theory, because I did the paperwork but was unable to get an appointment. Next time I'm eligible, if I still have that card, I will do Pre Check. I may cancel that card once I've redeemed the points, though, because it has a $59 fee, and I can get 2x per purchase on my Apple Card, which does not have a fee. I have not used the portal to purchase anything, every time I look it is more expensive than buying on my own. Maybe I'll get lucky some day.
ReplyDeleteI have my Apple Card, which I am currently using for everything to try to get to $5,000 of spending asap, because for a limited time every purchase above that $5,000 will be 3 points instead of 2. I misread the offer, though, and though it was retroactive, meaning if you spent $5,000, you would get 3 points on all of it. That's OK, I'm not losing any money.
The exceptions are that I have a Chase Freedom card that gives me 5 points per dollar at the grocery store this quarter, up to $1,500 in spending - so I'm using that at the grocery store and tracking that spending. I wish this category had come up after the Apple one ended. They're trying to thwart me!
I also have an Amazon card that I use for Amazon and Whole Foods, and also to rent cars because it gives me insurance on that, which is a good deal. I have one more Chase card that gives me 3 points per dollar spent at drug stores and restaurants, and I use that one in those places.
Is there a card that you know of that gives true travel insurance? Not just trip cancellation and that kind of thing, but like if a person died or needed health care over seas, it would cover those expenses? My father died on vacation in Italy, and medivacced (sp) him to the hospital from the mountainside where he was hiking, and brought his remains home. I don't think my step-mom had to pay for anything, which was a relief, she had enough going on. Just curious if anyone knows of a card that gives that. I always buy it, especially when I travel overseas.
The Chase Sapphire Reserve has coverage for up to $100,000 for emergency evacuation and $1,000,000 in accidental death and dismemberment. Also, I did not know that is what happened to your Dad; I had a friend who had the same thing happen! In Italy, while hiking! I always say that at least he went doing something he loved!
DeleteOh, good to know about the credit card, thank you! I will look into it and see if it makes sense for me.
DeleteMy dad dying doing something he loved, in a beautiful place, with my step-mom, who was the love of his life, was cold bitter comfort those first years. I didn't care, I just wanted it to not have happened, and I kind of held Italy responsible. Perhaps that's not an unreasonable thing to think, given that your friend's father died the same way, and men in their 70s ought not to go hiking for vacation. Now that a bit of time has passed (he died in 2017, a month before his 74th birthday) I do find comfort in the fact that he didn't suffer a long illness, didn't have to spend a lot of time in a nursing home, all of that stuff.
Personally, I know this is not any easier for my loved ones, but I would like to die doing something fun, not in bed riddled with cancer, or unable to remember things etc. So I know it is no consolation for the ones left behind, but I want to go fast!
DeleteI find this so fascinating, and yet I have no head for it myself. Fortunately, my husband enjoys (I think?) figuring out which card to use and then how to use the points. We've gotten a ton of "free" hotel rooms through our credit card points which is pretty awesome.
ReplyDeleteYes, the points can really add up!! Even if you just use the card for groceries, you can often get enough points to go on vacation! Yay!
DeleteI have two credit cards that earn me cashback but I really need to look into more perks - esp. the BILT credit card is intriguing. How many credit cards do you have in total?
ReplyDeleteHey San, somehow I missed this! I have seven credit cards, five of which I signed up for in the last 18 months. :) You should look into it; I think if I was paying rent I would get the BILT card.
DeleteI used to do credit card hacking all the time. In fact, I am related to someone who did it so much they no get turned down for credit cards from certain airlines. It doesn't seem to be as big of a deal over in the UK and I don't currently have the headspace for it anyways, but I used to LOVE credit card hacking. I got so many flights to the UK and back for basically free. I once had a free flight that I got with points and then I was bumped enough times that I ended up with two other free flights. I'm not sure that happens anymore though.
ReplyDeleteWe had a Chase Sapphire before and I think I got something like $600 of AirBnB vouchers for it. Oh and once I found out I had enough Avios (miles from trips I had done with work) to get a free case of Wine. I knew I wasn't going to earn enough for a flight but it was really nice to get a random case of wine for free.
Ha! I don't know what I would do with a free case of wine. Actually I do know: I would probably give it away, because (a) well, traveling, you know and (b) my brother was a winemaker and I have a lot of free cases of wine already! I don't even drink that much! But yes, it is nice to get something for sure. I am even happy with like a $50 credit because, yay, I win! It doesn't take much.
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